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August 06, 2008

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Vivek Sukumaran

Its mind blogging to see how a country thinks they can still get away this. Its a shame because they are one of the fastest growing global forces (along India) but its thinking like this that really sets them back and takes away from their opportunity to showcase their country to the world in a positive manner.

Peter Himler

Ed,

Nice post and good idea to build a community (and future dialogue) around Keith O'Brien's brainchild. Needless to say, there are a myriad other insightful voices in the PR blogosphere that were not included in the PR Week blog-off. How do capture these?

Also, here's a random post from The Flack on China: http://tinyurl.com/5vod6n

Bubbles

Part of the construction in Beijing in prep for the Olympics are brick walls sealing off the city slums. Seems they don't want any less than spiffy locals to spoil the picture-perfect scenery. True, these citizens are not forbidden to leave their walled enclaves, but it still smacks of Warsaw's WWII Jewish ghetto.

Harry Hoover

Great idea. The My Creative Team is on board.

Ted Weismann

Ed - First of all best of luck to you and all the other participants.

Great post and a great idea on your part. I agree with Peter we should open this call to action to others as well. For me, the competition opened my eye to several more great blogs I've added to my feed reader.

As to your topic of the day, I recently touched on it: http://tinyurl.com/6yvgfy. The fact is that China's state-run propaganda machine is anachronistic and is rooted in Communism. What I look forward to is just how much of the transgressions will be exposed through people using Twitter and other social media tools to convey what they see on the ground there. Unless the government blocks Twitter.com, there's not much they can do to control "the groundswell."

ed

Ted, thanks for your comments.

I think that's what everyone is hoping for. But, the mishaps continue to take place. We'll see what transpires over the next few weeks...

Kevin Dugan

Great idea to build on PRWeek efforts for something more important than a popularity contest (that said, I voted for you).

I've blogged about this in the past, but the topic definitely merits more discussion as the games are upon us.

Thanks Ed.

Sam Ford

As you know, I'm quite enthused about this idea of building more community around pressing PR issues in the blogosphere, so I'm happy to see the enthusiasm of Kevin, Harry, and the others above. To Peter's point, this conversation need not be limited to the 32 blogs in the competition. I know it's gotten several folks around Peppercom talking, and it helped generate some thoughts from me on the topic of ethics in PR work more generally, which I put up yesterday on the PepperDigital site at http://pepperdigital.typepad.com/pepperdigital/2008/08/ethics-and-the.html

I look forward to further discussion about how we might ensure more cross-blog dialogue in the wake of the PRWeek promotion, and thanks again for helping drive this conversation internally and externally.

ed

Thanks for the comment Peter. I agree that the 32 selected are only the tip of the iceberg for smart and insightful thinking in the PR blogosphere. I'm hoping my blog entry and call to action will gain traction beyond the PRWeek competitors and really leverage the brain cells (or blog cells) O'Brien has collected for this event. If you please, help me spread the word. By the way, great post on the 29th: Beijing Blues.

ed

Kevin,

I've always liked your blog a lot. Thanks for chiming in.

Kami Huyse

Such a great idea. In fact, just today I was thinking of writing a post about how we need to educate the Chinese about the West and the importance of two-way conversation. So, I will answer your call to action.

Lally

Ed:

Pop me an email at danieljlally at gee mail dot com

Kristian Darigan

Terrific idea - we at Cone are on board!

While there is indeed much that the Chinese government as a whole can do to continue to evolve in the direction it has set for itself in fostering a harmonius society, including taking further action to eradicate human rights and environmental abuses happening in the country, its worth noting that many of its citizens challenge some of the more popular western prescriptions for China’s future.

First, for many Chinese being part of the communist party -- especially in the past 30 years -- has symbolized an caring for others. That is, being a member means you have willingness to give portions of your income to help close the gap for those in need. Although, some say communism is not perfect, they point to the challenges we have in the United States with our own democratic system that has allowed for so many homeless and for political corruption to run rampant.

And, they have varied feelings on Tibet as many view its people as having greater access to social services and economic resources now then when it was not included in China. They report that individuals, who migrate out of the country, often return because opportunity for quality of life is limited elsewhere. So, many are perplexed by the international debate.

In addition, they point to the western interest to opening the country entirely up to the free market system and say that as much as free markets have allowed for some individuals to amass great wealth, many more have failed. They will tell you that what they seek, which is what they say everyone seeks -- is the opportunity to live a good life. Rural farmers in China report far greater happiness than those in business, in its major cities. Raising the standard of living is something they all want, but the need for western standards is not something I was told that is essential to many of them. They are not convinced American-style democracy will allow for this. They have faith that China's new democratic society run by the communist party could be the answer.

I was recently in China studying CSR for a month and found the insights the shared on western views versus their own to be wonderfully thought-provoking. I realize this is a small sample -- and that there is no one way to categorize China -- but nevertheless, thought that readers might find it interesting to hear some of the discussion happening on the inside. It's certainly not included in the majority of reports from our mainstream media.

In addition, every person I spoke with had incredible pride in the country itself; hope for their collective welcome by the world with the start of the Olympics (which they have been celebrating and living in anticipation of for years) and mixed feelings about the overall scrutiny so far. Some were taking the debate as a personal affront. They felt unfairly judged and eager to be heard. It left me with a feeling that the Chinese are like the biggest, new kid in school and the West as the popular clique. And as the popular kids, we have are at that critical moment in time where we can choose to make a friend or foe of our new classmate, based on acceptance -- or at least understanding our mutual differences as we all seek to learn and improve.

While I am NOT an advocate of either side, and admittedly am not expert enough to make any judgment call. I thought this information might spark additional thoughts and debate. I do know that the Chinese make up the largest group of active users on the internet or Netizens. There is a good chance they might find their way here – and I hope they do! This topic is perfect for discussion because it allows all of us to do some critical thinking about all sides of the issues. Thanks again for bringing it forward!

- Kristian

Ed

Kristian,

Thanks for your ever insightful comments. Clearly, there are two sides to every story.

Then, we have a freak disaster yesterday (wild man shoots family of Olympic coach). For all appearances, it seems that this has nothing to do with the issue at hand...and is completely random. But, this will only burden the government more...and continue to shine the spotlight brighter.

Kami Huyse

Ed;

I did get up a post about the importance of a free flow of speech in a society and why it matters in public relations. I have linked to it in my URL above. Thanks again for your call to action.

Kami

Guest

So what came of your call to action? Are you working to make it happen?

Ed

Stay tuned...making another pass it this shortly.

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